http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//list.php?18Fri, 10 Sep 2010 22:38:59 +0200 Phorum 5.2.6a http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,22384,22384#msg-22384 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,22384,22384#msg-22384www.youtube.com]

.... is that music composed by Beethoven? What is it?]]> Beautifulpause Ludwig van Beethoven's musicThu, 29 Jul 2010 21:44:04 +0200 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,22042,22042#msg-22042 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,22042,22042#msg-22042Please give your opinions on this.]]> Reehan Ludwig van Beethoven's musicWed, 05 May 2010 20:22:43 +0200 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,22030,22030#msg-22030 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,22030,22030#msg-22030 Kiana808 Ludwig van Beethoven's musicFri, 30 Apr 2010 09:36:06 +0200 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,21872,21872#msg-21872 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,21872,21872#msg-21872Beethoven's "Orpheus" Concerto : The Fourth Piano Concerto in its Cultural Context, North American Beethoven Studies No. 5, Pendragon Press, N.Y. 2009.
I have always felt this work to be most peculiar, and am delighted to have read a thesis that may go some way to explaining my feelings about this concerto.

I remember that we have posted before about this work in a more general way, and I am reminded that the second movement has always given JB "the creeps", so to speak. My own initial reaction to the movement was purely formal, and I was (and am) in awe at its masterly handling of dimininished sevenths and other technical details.

Having read the Jander book above, I am staggered to learn of its possible "Orphic" connections, which also apply to the other movements. I would like to post more about this fascinating - and controversial - thesis by Jander, but would first ask if other forum members have some comments to make about the concerto.]]> Philip Ludwig van Beethoven's musicThu, 29 Apr 2010 20:35:12 +0200 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,21833,21833#msg-21833 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,21833,21833#msg-21833Merci d'avance.
Cordialement,
Florence
P.S. Mon anglais est tellmement mauvais que je n'ose pas me risquer. Mais si l'un de vous a la gentillesse de traduire, mon message atteindra peut-être plus de monde.]]> florence Ludwig van Beethoven's musicTue, 06 Apr 2010 10:53:34 +0200 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,21487,21487#msg-21487 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,21487,21487#msg-21487]]> Medical Foundation Ludwig van Beethoven's musicFri, 18 Dec 2009 18:31:55 +0100 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,21407,21407#msg-21407 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,21407,21407#msg-21407
In his later years, his music becomes deep, rich and very dimensional. The fantastic ninth symphony brings closure to a flawless set of symphonies. No longer was there composing under previous bounds of the classical era, but rather he was composing with disregard for what had been thought the limitations of the performer or the liking of the audience. He was composing for himself and the ages. The final quartets which completed the sixteen phenomenal entourage of chamber music along with the 32 piano sonatas gave us a glimpse of Beethoven's true composition brilliance. In particular, he spent all of 1818 composing the Hammerklavier Sonata which was nearly an hour long. It was depicted as a gargantuan piece from a titan among composers. His ability to build large-scale musical structures that lasted for hours was among the rarest gifts that the world has ever seen.]]> smallfish Ludwig van Beethoven's musicSat, 12 Dec 2009 21:28:27 +0100 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,21399,21399#msg-21399 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,21399,21399#msg-21399TBX!
Ruth]]> ruthgo Ludwig van Beethoven's musicSat, 02 Jan 2010 19:25:37 +0100 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,21387,21387#msg-21387 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,21387,21387#msg-21387
[www.pianostreet.com]

On this beautiful melancholic piece which is the last melody Beethoven wrote for piano (!!) I enlarged a bit the second theme and wrote 7 variations for piano elaborating the melody itself as also the bass line: Theme Allegretto - Allegretto - Moderato - Allegro - Allegro agitato - Canzonetta cantabile - Lento - Allegro ma non troppo (Fugato).

www.gerdprengel.de/var_bagatelle.pdf
www.gerdprengel.de/var_bagatelle.mp3

I hope you'll like it ...

Gerd]]> gprengel Ludwig van Beethoven's musicSat, 12 Dec 2009 22:07:05 +0100 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,21365,21365#msg-21365 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,21365,21365#msg-21365Also, at which stage of composing did he become deaf?

many thanks.]]> Juan Ludwig van Beethoven's musicFri, 18 Dec 2009 21:59:10 +0100 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,21024,21024#msg-21024 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,21024,21024#msg-21024 Notetaker Ludwig van Beethoven's musicThu, 15 Oct 2009 20:40:14 +0200 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,20567,20567#msg-20567 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,20567,20567#msg-20567
Anyone have that information and where is the best reference database for it? I've been looking for a conclusive one but can only find "comprehensive listings" that don't dare say 'complete'

Then I have a question afterward.

Thank veddy mucho!!:)o

PHX]]> PhoenixIsRising Ludwig van Beethoven's musicSun, 16 Aug 2009 00:58:50 +0200 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,20504,20504#msg-20504 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,20504,20504#msg-20504
[www.taipeitimes.com]

What do you think?]]> LVB Ludwig van Beethoven's musicMon, 28 Sep 2009 23:00:58 +0200 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,20350,20350#msg-20350 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,20350,20350#msg-20350
my name is Simon and eventhough this account maybe new, I've been a regular visitor of www.lvbeethoven.com for quite some time now, so I'd like to start by congratulating the creators of this website for the great source of information and pictures on Beethoven that they have created.
Now to my question (which has also been on my mind for quite some time):
It is commonly known that the Freudenthema of the 9th Symphony is anticipated in the main theme of the Chorphantasie in C minor, op. 80. Recently, however, I've been listening to "Seufzer eines Ungeliebten" & "Gegenliebe" WoO 118 and I couldn't help but to think that the theme starting after the words "Wüsst ich, wüsst ich, wüsst ich, wüsst ich, dass du mich lieb und wert ein bischen hieltest...." is almost the same as the main theme in op. 80.
I'm not a professional musician, so I'm not able to verify this assumption by checking the scores of the two pieces but I hope that someone here in this forum has noticed it before or is able to check it, or knows anything else concerning this topic (for example about the history of WoO 118).
I know that this question is very specific, but this forum is the only place I was able to think of where I might have a chance of getting an answer.
So thank you very much in andvance and

kind regards


Simon]]> Physeter Ludwig van Beethoven's musicThu, 03 Dec 2009 11:45:46 +0100 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,20232,20232#msg-20232 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,20232,20232#msg-20232
I have found something wonderful......... Beethoven's 'Immortal Beloved' letters which have been adapted and the words put to Beethovens 'Moonlight Sonata', one of my favourite pieces!! I just wanted to share this with others,

Have a look on:

www.myspace.com/elysiumiii

Enjoy!!

P x]]> PMalthouse Ludwig van Beethoven's musicTue, 09 Jun 2009 15:55:31 +0200 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,20189,20189#msg-20189 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,20189,20189#msg-20189 LVB Ludwig van Beethoven's musicFri, 26 Jun 2009 18:21:44 +0200 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,20172,20172#msg-20172 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,20172,20172#msg-20172 LVB Ludwig van Beethoven's musicMon, 03 Aug 2009 15:03:16 +0200 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,20091,20091#msg-20091 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,20091,20091#msg-20091If anyone wants to listen can do so in [www.goear.com]º-6-Ludwig-van-Beethoven
Greetings.]]> LVB Ludwig van Beethoven's musicSat, 02 May 2009 02:33:01 +0200 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,19920,19920#msg-19920 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,19920,19920#msg-19920(... B) )


The complete string quartets...

- The Lindsay String Quartet -

(yaaay!)

Track Listings
CD1
1. String Quartet No. 1 In F, Op. 18 No. 1 - I: Allegro Con Brio 9:38
2. String Quartet No. 1 In F, Op. 18 No. 1 - Ii: Adagio Affetuoso Ed Appassionato 11:27
3. String Quartet No. 1 In F, Op. 18 No. 1 - Iii: Scherzo 3:34
4. String Quartet No. 1 In F, Op. 18 No. 1 - Iv: Allegro 6:46
5. String Quartet No. 2 In G, Op. 18 No. 2 - I: Allegro 7:34
6. String Quartet No. 2 In G, Op. 18 No. 2 - Ii: Adagio Cantabile 6:38
7. String Quartet No. 2 In G, Op. 18 No. 2 - Iii: Scherzo 4:23
8. String Quartet No. 2 In G, Op. 18 No. 2 - Iv: Allegro Molto Quasi Presto 5:27
9. String Quartet No. 3 In D, Op. 18 No. 3 - I: Allegro 7:38
10. String Quartet No. 3 In D, Op. 18 No. 3 - Ii: Andante Con Moto 7:35
11. String Quartet No. 3 In D, Op. 18 No. 3 - Iii: Allegro 2:57
12. String Quartet No. 3 In D, Op. 18 No. 3 - Iv: Presto 5:56

CD2
1. String Quartet No. 4 In C Minor, Op. 18 No. 4 - I:allegro Ma Non Tanto 8:55
2. String Quartet No. 4 In C Minor, Op. 18 No. 4 - Ii: Scherzo (andante Scherzoso Quasi Allegretto) 6:57
3. String Quartet No. 4 In C Minor, Op. 18 No. 4 - Iii: Menuetto (allegretto) 4:03
4. String Quartet No. 4 In C Minor, Op. 18 No. 4 - Iv: Allegro 4:32
5. String Quartet No. 5 In A, Op. 18 No. 5 - I: Allegro 9:43
6. String Quartet No. 5 In A, Op. 18 No. 5 - Ii: Menuetto - Trio 5:01
7. String Quartet No. 5 In A, Op. 18 No. 5 - Iii: Andante Cantabile 9:49
8. String Quartet No. 5 In A, Op. 18 No. 5 - Iv: Allegro 6:14
9. String Quartet No. 11 In F, Op. 95 'serio' - I: Allegro Con Brio 4:48
10. String Quartet No. 11 In F, Op. 95 'serio' - Ii: Allegretto Ma Non Troppo 7:22
11. String Quartet No. 11 In F, Op. 95 'serio' - Iii: Allegro Assai Vivace, Ma Serioso 4:35
12. String Quartet No. 11 In F, Op. 95 'serio' - Larghetto Expressivo - Allegretto Agitato 5:06

CD3
1. String Quartet No. 6 In B Flat, Op. 18 No. 6 - I: Allegro Con Brio 9:21
2. String Quartet No. 6 In B Flat, Op. 18 No. 6 - Ii: Adagio - Ma Non Troppo 7:18
3. String Quartet No. 6 In B Flat, Op. 18 No. 6 - Iii: Scherzo - Trio 3:17
4. String Quartet No. 6 In B Flat, Op. 18 No. 6 - Iv: Adagio "la Malinconia" - Allegretto Quasi Allegro 9:56
5. String Quartet No. 8 In E Minor, Op. 59 No. 2 'rasumovsky' - I: Allegro 13:47
6. String Quartet No. 8 In E Minor, Op. 59 No. 2 'rasumovsky' - Ii: Molto Adagio 12:59
7. String Quartet No. 8 In E Minor, Op. 59 No. 2 'rasumovsky' - Iii: Allegretto - Maggiore 7:14
8. String Quartet No. 8 In E Minor, Op. 59 No. 2 'rasumovsky' - Iv: Presto - Piu Presto 5:33

CD4
1. String Quartet No. 7 In F, Op. 59 No. 1 'razumovsky' - I: Allegro 11:49
2. String Quartet No. 7 In F, Op. 59 No. 1 'razumovsky' - Ii: Allegretto Vivace Sempre Scherzando 9:12
3. String Quartet No. 7 In F, Op. 59 No. 1 'razumovsky' - Iii: Adagio Molto E Mesto 22:36
4. String Quartet No. 9 In C, Op. 59 No. 3 'razumovsky' - I: Introduzione. Andante Con Moto - Allegro V 11:13
5. String Quartet No. 9 In C, Op. 59 No. 3 'razumovsky' - Ii: Andante Con Moto Quasi Allegretto 8:40
6. String Quartet No. 9 In C, Op. 59 No. 3 'razumovsky' - Iii: Menuetto Grazioso 5:07
7. String Quartet No. 9 In C, Op. 59 No. 3 'razumovsky' - Allegro Molto 6:24

CD5
1. String Quartet No. 10 In E Flat, Op. 74 'harp' - I: Poco Adagio - Allegro 10:41
2. String Quartet No. 10 In E Flat, Op. 74 'harp' - Ii: Adagio Ma Non Troppo 10:26
3. String Quartet No. 10 In E Flat, Op. 74 'harp' - Iii: Presto 5:24
4. String Quartet No. 10 In E Flat, Op. 74 'harp' - Iv: Allegretto Con Variazioni 7:05
5. String Quartet No. 12 In E Flat, Op. 127 - I: Maestoso - Allegro 7:33
6. String Quartet No. 12 In E Flat, Op. 127 - Ii: Adagio, Ma Non Troppo E Molto Cantabile - Andante Con 18:58
7. String Quartet No. 12 In E Flat, Op. 127 - Iii: Scherzando Vivace 8:49
8. String Quartet No. 12 In E Flat, Op. 127 - Iv: Finale 6:53

CD6
1. String Quartet No. 13 In B Flat, Op. 130 - I: Adagio Ma Non Troppo - Allegro 14:35
2. String Quartet No. 13 In B Flat, Op. 130 - Ii: Presto 2:02
3. String Quartet No. 13 In B Flat, Op. 130 - Iii: Andante Con Moto Ma Non Troppo - Poco Scherzoso 6:41
4. String Quartet No. 13 In B Flat, Op. 130 - Iv: Alla Danza Tedesca - Allegro Assai 3:22
5. String Quartet No. 13 In B Flat, Op. 130 - V: Cavatina: Adagio Molto Espressivo 8:37
6. Grosse Fuge In B Flat, Op. 133 16:04
7. Alternative Finale To String Quartet, Op. 130 9:42

CD7
1. String Quartet No. 14 In C Sharp Minor, Op. 131 - I: Adagio Ma Non Troppo E Molto Espressivo 9:23
2. String Quartet No. 14 In C Sharp Minor, Op. 131 - Ii: Allegro Molto Vivace 3:06
3. String Quartet No. 14 In C Sharp Minor, Op. 131 - Iii: Allegro Moderato 0:57
4. String Quartet No. 14 In C Sharp Minor, Op. 131 - Iv: Andante Ma Non Troppo Molto Cantabile - Piu Mo 15:57
5. String Quartet No. 14 In C Sharp Minor, Op. 131 - V: Presto 5:26
6. String Quartet No. 14 In C Sharp Minor, Op. 131 - Vi: Adagio Quasi Un Poco Andante 2:21
7. String Quartet No. 14 In C Sharp Minor, Op. 131 - Vii: Allegro 6:50

CD8
1. String Quartet No. 15 In A Minor, Op. 132 - I: Assai Sostenuto - Allegro 10:20
2. String Quartet No. 15 In A Minor, Op. 132 - Ii: Allegro Ma Non Tanto 8:42
3. String Quartet No. 15 In A Minor, Op. 132 - Iii: Molto Adagio: Conzone Di Ringraziamento Offerta All 18:06
4. String Quartet No. 15 In A Minor, Op. 132 - Iv: Alla Marcia, Assai Vivace - Piu Allegro - Presto 2:04
5. String Quartet No. 15 In A Minor, Op. 132 - V: Allegro Appassionato 6:27
6. String Quartet No. 16 In F, Op. 135 - I: Allegretto 6:42
7. String Quartet No. 16 In F, Op. 135 - Ii: Vivace 3:20
8. String Quartet No. 16 In F, Op. 135 - Iii: Lento Assai, Cantante E Tranquillo 9:14
9. String Quartet No. 16 In F, Op. 135 - Iv: Grave Ma Non Troppo - Allegro (der Schwer Gefasste Entschl 7:26



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:)]]> Conny Ludwig van Beethoven's musicFri, 03 Apr 2009 02:00:23 +0200 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,19454,19454#msg-19454 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,19454,19454#msg-19454irelandtoo.blogspot.com] just scroll down a little.

I would like to see a fine memorial to Beethoven in Ireland. In a Music Park, or even in our garden. :-)

What is considered the best/greatest of the Beethoven memorials or is just a matter of personal taste?]]> Maurice Colgan Ludwig van Beethoven's musicMon, 08 Feb 2010 08:22:27 +0100 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,19400,19400#msg-19400 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,19400,19400#msg-19400
I'm currently studying Beethoven's late quartets for the purpose of reaching a higher understanding of these sublime works. I would be very intrigued to know what various highly regarded musicologists of past and present have thought of them. Could anyone recommend websites or books that discuss this subject matter in detail? Thanks in advance!]]> Fuga Ludwig van Beethoven's musicTue, 27 Jan 2009 04:35:26 +0100 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,19340,19340#msg-19340 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,19340,19340#msg-19340
I don't know if anyone can help with this but I'm looking for a piece of music by Beethoven (probably) called Farewell to the Piano (AKA Waltz for Piano in F Major).

I have only managed to find it in what looks like to me duet form with piano, here - [www.freehandmusic.com]

What I'm looking for is the piano solo version. Does anyone know where I can get it?

If anyone can help I'd greatly appreciate it.

All the best,

Alex]]> AlexJW Ludwig van Beethoven's musicThu, 15 Jan 2009 12:12:11 +0100 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,19337,19337#msg-19337 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,19337,19337#msg-19337
Cheers]]> Scribe Ludwig van Beethoven's musicSat, 31 Jan 2009 22:20:12 +0100 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,18242,18242#msg-18242 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,18242,18242#msg-18242Wondering, Lutz]]> LutzBaar Ludwig van Beethoven's musicMon, 04 Jan 2010 01:02:01 +0100 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,18115,18115#msg-18115 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,18115,18115#msg-18115 LvB_Lover Ludwig van Beethoven's musicFri, 15 Aug 2008 00:27:03 +0200 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,18012,18012#msg-18012 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,18012,18012#msg-18012
I was hearing Beethoven's violin concerto again the other night, and it got me thinking. Is there any violin concerto prior to it that even comes close? One might argue that Mozart's best piano concerto's are predecessors of Beethoven's in their expressiveness and drama, but I can't think of anything like the Beethoven violin concerto that predates it-- the slow movement is as good as just about any slow movement of the symphonies! (Possibly excepting his ninth.)

Really, how did he do it? What made him think, "Ya know, I'm going to write this incredibly beautiful and profound violin concerto!!" lol.

-john]]> jawnps Ludwig van Beethoven's musicFri, 18 Jul 2008 12:27:10 +0200 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,17573,17573#msg-17573 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,17573,17573#msg-17573 Moonlight sontanta Ludwig van Beethoven's musicSat, 27 Jun 2009 13:56:25 +0200 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,17443,17443#msg-17443 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,17443,17443#msg-17443

What did Beethoven mean by 'Freedom' in the 9th Symphony and the freeing of all the prisoners in is only Opera , Fidelio?

Freedom from what ?

:S]]> Juan Ludwig van Beethoven's musicTue, 17 Jun 2008 20:30:06 +0200 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,15880,15880#msg-15880 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,15880,15880#msg-15880Armando Orlandi makes pieces from the "Kafka Schizzenbuch" come to life

Minuet for orchestra, in G major (version for piano):
[www.lvbeethoven.com]

and
Lamentations of Jeremiah, from the "Kafka Schizzenbuch".
[www.lvbeethoven.com]]]> domi Ludwig van Beethoven's musicMon, 07 Apr 2008 21:18:34 +0200 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,15628,15628#msg-15628 http://www.forum-lvbeethoven.com/Forum//read.php?18,15628,15628#msg-15628I would like to ask you for a kindness. I'm doing a research about the violinist Ignaz Schuppanzigh (1776 - 1830) and I discovered that Beethoven wrote some musical scherzos for him. They're quite funny and I would like to save them in the format MP3 or WAV, but sadly I can't download them. Could somebody help me and send me them through email?
There is a short list of this little pieces:

Hol dich der Teufel (Hess 254)
Esel aller Esel (Hess 277)
Lob auf den Dicken (WoO 100)
Falstafferel, lass' dich sehen (WoO 184)

Thanks you so much for your attention!

Sara]]> sazu Ludwig van Beethoven's musicWed, 27 Feb 2008 12:44:01 +0100